House Members Meeting on Budget Issues, February 28, 1985

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House Members Meeting on Budget Issues, February 28, 1985
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(page 1)
13
THURSDAY, FEBRUARY 28, 1985 10:00 - 11:00 S- 230
MODERATE REPUBLICAN HOUSE MBRS
re : BUDGET
Olympia Snowe (R., Me) :circled:
Carl Pursell (R., MI)
Tom Tauke (R., IA)
Matthew Rinaldo (R., NJ)
Tom Ridge (R., PA)
Steve Gunderson (R., WI)
Hamilton Fish (R., NY)
Nancy Johnson (R., CT)
Ed Zschau (R., CA)
Paul Henry (R., MI)
Senator Dole
Senator Chafee :crossed out: at a mash up :handwritten:
Senator Simpson
Senator Domenici

(page 2)
THURSDAY, FEBRUARY 28, 1985 10:00 - 11:00 S- 230 MODERATE REPUBLICAN HOUSE MBRS
re : BUDGET
Olympia Snowe (R., Me)
Carl Pursell (R., MI)
Tom Tauke (R., IA)
Matthew Rinaldo (R., NJ)
Tom Ridge (R., PA)
Steve Gunderson (R., WI)
Hamilton Fish (R., NY)
Nancy Johnson (R., CT)
Ed Zschau (R., CA)
Paul Henry (R., MI)
Senator Dole
Senator Chafee
Senator Simpson
Senator Domenici

(page 3)
MEMBERS OF THE 92 GROUP
:selected: The Honorable Doug Bereuter
2446 Rayburn HOB
The Honorable Sherwood L. Boehlert
1641 Longworth HOB
:selected: The Honorable Rod Chandler
216 Cannon HOB
The Honorable William F. Clinger, Jr.
1122 Longworth HOB
The Honorable Robert W. Davis
1124 Longworth HOB
The Honorable Cooper Evans
127 Cannon HOB
:selected: The Honorable Hamilton Fish, Jr.
2227 Rayburn HOB
The Honorable Bill Frenzel
1026 Longworth HOB
The Honorable Benjamin A. Gilman
2160 Rayburn HOB
The Honorable William Goodling
2263 Rayburn HOB
The Honorable Bill Green
1110 Longworth HOB
:selected: The Honorable Steve Gunderson
227 Cannon HOB
:selected: The Honorable Paul Henry
502 Cannon HOB
The Honorable Jim Jeffords
2431 Rayburn HOB
:selected: The Honorable Nancy L. Johnson
119 Cannon HOB
The Honorable Jim Leach
1514 Longworth HOB
The Honorable Lynn Martin
1208 Longworth HOB
:selected: The Honorable John R. Mckernan, Jr.
1535 Longworth HOB
:selected: The Honorable Stewart B. Mckinney
237 Cannon HOB
The Honorable John Miller
1723 Longworth HOB
The Honorable Sid Morrison
1434 Longworth HOB
The Honorable Thomas E. Petri
1024 Longworth HOB
:selected: The Honorable Carl D. Pursell
1414 Longworth HOB
:selected: The Honorable Thomas J. Ridge
1714 Longworth HOB
:selected: The Honorable Matt Rinaldo
2338 Rayburn HOB
The Honorable Marge Roukema
303 Cannon HOB
The Honorable John Rowland
512 Cannon HOB
:selected: The Honorable Claudine Schneider
1512 Longworth HOB
:selected: The Honorable Olympia Snowe
133 Cannon HOB
:selected: The Honorable Tom Tauke
2244 Rayburn HOB
:selected: The Honorable Ed Zschau
429 Cannon HOB

(page 4)
MEMORANDUM OF CALL
TO: Jean
:unselected: YOU WERE CALLED BY- :unselected: YOU WERE VISITED BY-
Kinh
OF (Organization)
Congresswoman Snow
PHONE NO. CODE/EXT. :left blank:
:unselected: PLEASE CALL
:unselected: WILL CALL AGAIN
:unselected: IS WAITING TO SEE YOU
:unselected: RETURNED YOUR CALL
:unselected: WISHES AN APPOINTMENT
MESSAGE
56306
RECEIVED BY :left blank:
DATE 3-4
TIME 3:20

(page 5)
2/28/85
Where We Are on the Budget
· The Budget Committee is still scheduled to begin market of a budget resolution next week. Right now meetings are being held with staff from each committee to update our information as to how much spending they believe they can cut over the next three years (initial results in January indicated that we could get at least 60% of domestic cuts, with Armed Services, Banking, Labor, and Government Affairs still out).
. On advice of the Budget Committee it also seems that we have to raise our goal from $50 billion in savings in FY 1986 to $64 billion. The reasons seem to be slower growth assumptions (translating into lower revenues) than the administration and higher interest rate projections.
. That makes our job even more difficult, but it would be wrong to say we are 'off track'. We haven't even had any votes on a budget yet, or on any part of a budget. We have had some unfortunate votes on farm credit legislation, but it remains to be seen whether the President will allow us to spend that money by signing the bill into law.
. The keys to unlocking the budget puzzle are still the same. We need to move across-the-board, including real restraint on the defense budget and some action on entitlements, including social security. The danger is that everyone already seems to be scaling back their expectations. Those who want defense cut ought to keep in mind that reducing the pressure on the domestic budget inevitably will reduce the pressure on the Pentagon as well. And those who want to freeze or reform domestic programs better remember that protecting defense from any budget cuts devastates our ability to win concessions from the advocates of those domestic programs.
. The defense picture is mixed. This week the Republicans on the Armed Services Committee indicated in a letter that they are willing to consider cuts from the President's request, but not below a 4% real increase each year. That is probably not enough to convince our other committee chairman to bring their members along on the kind of cuts we need, but it is a helpful sign of movement and something we can talk about.
. We seem to have lost sight of our original goal. That is to cut spending enough to get the deficit to 2% of GNP by 1988. We have to see how much we have available to spend, then divvy it up among all the programs we want to keep. Instead we are already starting to look at problems, one by one, and throw money at them -- then we will add up the total and call it the budget, no matter what it does to the economy and the country. If that's the best we can do, we might as well do everyone a favor and go home right now.

(page 6)
THURSDAY, FEBRUARY 28, 1985 10:00 - 11:00 S- 230 MODERATE REPUBLICAN HOUSE MBRS re : BUDGET
Olympia Snowe (R., Me)
Carl Pursell (R., MI)
Tom Tauke (R., IA)
Matthew Rinaldo (R., NJ)
Tom Ridge (R., PA)
Steve Gunderson (R., WI)
Hamilton Fish (R., NY)
Nancy Johnson (R., CT)
Ed Zschau (R., CA)
Paul Henry (R., MI).
Senator Dole
Senator Chafee
Senator Simpson
Senator Domenici

(page 7)
THURSDAY, FEBRUARY 28, 1985 10:00 - 11:00 S- 230 MODERATE REPUBLICAN HOUSE MBRS re : BUDGET
Olympia Snowe (R., Me)
Carl Pursell (R., MI)
Tom Tauke (R., IA)
Matthew Rinaldo (R., NJ)
Tom Ridge (R., PA)
Steve Gunderson (R., WI)
Hamilton Fish (R., NY)
Nancy Johnson (R., CT)
Ed Zschau (R., CA)
Paul Henry (R., MI)
Senator Dole
Senator Chafee
Senator Simpson
Senator Domenici

(page 8)
BOB DOLE KANSAS
United States Senate OFFICE OF THE MAJORITY LEADER
WASHINGTON, DC 20510
January 29, 1985
MEMORANDUM
TO : SENATOR DOLE
FROM: SHEILA BURKE :signature: SB
SUBJECT : REQUEST TO MEET WITH 8-9 MODERATE REPUBLICAN HOUSE MEMBERS ON BUDGET ISSUES
We received a call today from Olympia Snowe and Carl Pursell requesting that a meeting be scheduled with you and 8-9 members of the so-called "92 Group", to re- view the Senate Republican budget initiative.
Apparently a group of about 30 have already met with Bob Michel and he encouraged them to meet with you.
Congresswoman Snowe would like to schedule a meeting this week. Those likely to be included are:
Olympia Snowe (R., ME)
Carl Pursell (R., MI)
Tom Tauke (R., IA)
Matthew Rinaldo (R., NJ)
Tom Ridge (R., PA)
Steve Gunderson (R., WI)
Hamilton Fish (R., NY)
Nancy Johnson (R., CT)
Ed Zschau (R., CA)
Paul Henry (R., MI)
Do you wish to agree to a meeting? YES :selected: NO :unselected:
Shall I try to schedule this week? YES :unselected: NO :selected:

(page 9)
February 14, 1985
MEMORANDUM
TO: SENATOR DOLE
FROM: ROD DeARMENT SHEILA BURKE :signature: SB
SUBJECT: LIST OF INVITEES TO VARIOUS MEETINGS
The following meetings have been placed on your calendar. Listed are the possible invitees for the various meetings for your approval:
Feb. 21, 1985 9:30 a.m.
Business Roundtable Task Force re: trade deficit. Three or four of their members participating.
Senator Heinz
Senator Chafee
Senator Danforth
Senator Packwood
Senator Simpson
:selected: Feb. 26, 1985/S-207 2:30-3:30 p.m.
National Governors' Association Executive Committee re: deficit reduction and frank discussion of legislative issues
Senator Simpson
Senator Armstrong
Senator Chafee
Senator Hatfield
Senator Domenici
Senator Packwood
Senator Byrd
Senator Cranston
Senator Inouye
Senator Stennis
Senator Chiles
Senator Long
[ Feb. 28, 1985/S-230 9:30 or 10:00 a.m. :circled:
8-9 Moderate Republican House Members on Budget Issues
Olympia Snowe
Carl Pursell
Tom Tauke
Matthew Rinaldo
Tom Ridge
Steve Gunderson
Hamilton Fish
Nancy Johnson
Ed Zschau
Paul Henry
Senator Simpson
Senator Domenici
Senator Armstrong
Senator Chafee
Senator Dole :handwritten:
March 5 or 7, 1985 9:00 a.m.
AARP re: issues relevant to the elderly
Senator Simpson
Senator Packwood
Senator Durenberger
Senator Heinz
Senator Chafee
Senator Hawkins
Senator Armstrong
March 6, 22 or 27 S-230
WORLD BANK Representatives re: African and Third World debt problems
Senator Hatfield
Senator Kassebaum
Senator Lugar
Senator Garn
Senator Mathias
Senator Heinz


(page 10)
Subject :
Moderate Republican House Members on Budget
Thursday,
Date: Feb. 28,1985
Time : 10:00 a. m. - 11:00
Location: S-230
REPUBLICAN LEADERSHIP
133
Senator
Position
Invited
Yes
No
ARMSTRONG
Policy-Chairman
:selected: wcb :will call back:
:unselected:
:selected:
CHAFEE
Conference-Chairman 46174
:selected: wcb :will call back:
:selected:
:unselected:
COCHRAN
Conference-Secretary
:unselected:
:unselected:
:unselected:
DOLE
Majority Leader
:selected:
:selected:
:unselected:
HEINZ
Senatorial Comm.-Chairman
:unselected:
:unselected:

SIMPSON
Asst. Majority Leader
:selected:
:selected:
:selected: :crossed out:
THURMOND
President Pro Tempore
:unselected:
:unselected:
:unselected:
Kirk X 56306 contact in Snowe's office :handwritten: 15

COMMITTEE CHAIRMEN
Senator
Committee
Invited
Yes
No
ABDNOR
Joint Economic



ANDREWS
Select - - Indian Affairs



DANFORTH
Commerce



DOMENICI :handwritten: angela
Budget :handwritten: 46621
:selected:
:selected:

DURENBERGER
Intelligence



GARN
Banking



GOLDWATER
Armed Services



HATCH
Labor



HATFIELD
Appropriations



HEINZ
Special - - Aging



HELMS
Agriculture



LUGAR
Foreign Relations



MATHIAS
Rules & Administration



McCLURE
Energy



MURKOWSKI
Veterans Affairs



PACKWOOD
Finance



ROTH
Governmental Affairs



RUDMAN
Select - - Ethics



STAFFORD
Environment



THURMOND
Judiciary



WEICKER
Small Business




BOSCHWITZ
LAXALT
BAUCUS
JOHNSTON
COHEN
MATTINGLY
BENTSEN
KENNEDY
D'AMATO
McCONNELL
BIDEN
KERRY
DENTON
NICKLES
BINGAMAN
LAUTENBERG
EAST
PRESSLER
BOREN
LEAHY
EVANS
QUAYLE
BRADLEY
LEVIN
GORTON
SPECTER
BUMPERS
LONG
GRAMM
STEVENS
BURDICK
MATSUNAGA
GRASSLEY
SYMMS
BYRD
MELCHER
HAWKINS
TRIBLE
CHILES
METZENBAUM
HECHT
WALLOP
CRANSTON
MTCHELL
HUMPHREY
WARNER
DeCONCINI
MOYNIHAN
KASSEBAUM
WILSON
DIXON
NUNN
KASTEN

DODD
PELL


EAGLETON
PROXMIRE


EXON
PRYOR


FORD
RIEGLE


GLENN
ROCKEFELLER


GORE
SARBANES


HARKIN
SASSER


HART
SIMON


HEFLIN
STENNIS


HOLLINGS
ZORINSKY


INOUYE

Republicans Democrats




Administration:
Olympia Snowe
Carl Pursell
Tom Tauke
Matthew Ronaldo
Tom Ridge
Steve Gunderson
Hamilton Fish
Nancy Johnson
Ed Zschau
Paul Henry

(page 11)
:circled: 8:30 or 9:00- 10:00 :ten o'clock is partially erased:
Feb. 28, 1985
BOB DOLE KANSAS
United States Senate
OFFICE OF THE MAJORITY LEADER
WASHINGTON, DC 20510
February 4, 1985
MEMORANDUM
TO: SENATOR DOLE
FROM: SHEILA BURKE :signature: SB
SUBJECT: MEETING WITH HOUSE MODERATE REPUBLICANS
As you may recall, Olympia Snowe and Carl Pursell called last week to set up a meeting with you and 8-9 members of the so-called "92 Group." You indicated a willingness to meet with them at some time other than last week. Mr. Pursell called again today to schedule a time.
Shall I set up a time early this week?
1/2 to 45 min.
Schedule this week YES :unselected: NO :unselected:
Schedule after recess YES :selected: :circled: NO :unselected:
Call Kirk in Olympia Snowe's office re: scheduling
56306
KIRK WALDER
:shorthand:
[not 10 t noon ] ? weds no 5:00
(page 1)
13
THURSDAY, FEBRUARY 28, 1985 10:00 - 11:00 S- 230
MODERATE REPUBLICAN HOUSE MBRS
re : BUDGET
Olympia Snowe (R., Me) :circled:
Carl Pursell (R., MI)
Tom Tauke (R., IA)
Matthew Rinaldo (R., NJ)
Tom Ridge (R., PA)
Steve Gunderson (R., WI)
Hamilton Fish (R., NY)
Nancy Johnson (R., CT)
Ed Zschau (R., CA)
Paul Henry (R., MI)
Senator Dole
Senator Chafee :crossed out: at a mash up :handwritten:
Senator Simpson
Senator Domenici

(page 2)
THURSDAY, FEBRUARY 28, 1985 10:00 - 11:00 S- 230 MODERATE REPUBLICAN HOUSE MBRS
re : BUDGET
Olympia Snowe (R., Me)
Carl Pursell (R., MI)
Tom Tauke (R., IA)
Matthew Rinaldo (R., NJ)
Tom Ridge (R., PA)
Steve Gunderson (R., WI)
Hamilton Fish (R., NY)
Nancy Johnson (R., CT)
Ed Zschau (R., CA)
Paul Henry (R., MI)
Senator Dole
Senator Chafee
Senator Simpson
Senator Domenici

(page 3)
MEMBERS OF THE 92 GROUP
:selected: The Honorable Doug Bereuter
2446 Rayburn HOB
The Honorable Sherwood L. Boehlert
1641 Longworth HOB
:selected: The Honorable Rod Chandler
216 Cannon HOB
The Honorable William F. Clinger, Jr.
1122 Longworth HOB
The Honorable Robert W. Davis
1124 Longworth HOB
The Honorable Cooper Evans
127 Cannon HOB
:selected: The Honorable Hamilton Fish, Jr.
2227 Rayburn HOB
The Honorable Bill Frenzel
1026 Longworth HOB
The Honorable Benjamin A. Gilman
2160 Rayburn HOB
The Honorable William Goodling
2263 Rayburn HOB
The Honorable Bill Green
1110 Longworth HOB
:selected: The Honorable Steve Gunderson
227 Cannon HOB
:selected: The Honorable Paul Henry
502 Cannon HOB
The Honorable Jim Jeffords
2431 Rayburn HOB
:selected: The Honorable Nancy L. Johnson
119 Cannon HOB
The Honorable Jim Leach
1514 Longworth HOB
The Honorable Lynn Martin
1208 Longworth HOB
:selected: The Honorable John R. Mckernan, Jr.
1535 Longworth HOB
:selected: The Honorable Stewart B. Mckinney
237 Cannon HOB
The Honorable John Miller
1723 Longworth HOB
The Honorable Sid Morrison
1434 Longworth HOB
The Honorable Thomas E. Petri
1024 Longworth HOB
:selected: The Honorable Carl D. Pursell
1414 Longworth HOB
:selected: The Honorable Thomas J. Ridge
1714 Longworth HOB
:selected: The Honorable Matt Rinaldo
2338 Rayburn HOB
The Honorable Marge Roukema
303 Cannon HOB
The Honorable John Rowland
512 Cannon HOB
:selected: The Honorable Claudine Schneider
1512 Longworth HOB
:selected: The Honorable Olympia Snowe
133 Cannon HOB
:selected: The Honorable Tom Tauke
2244 Rayburn HOB
:selected: The Honorable Ed Zschau
429 Cannon HOB

(page 4)
MEMORANDUM OF CALL
TO: Jean
:unselected: YOU WERE CALLED BY- :unselected: YOU WERE VISITED BY-
Kinh
OF (Organization)
Congresswoman Snow
PHONE NO. CODE/EXT. :left blank:
:unselected: PLEASE CALL
:unselected: WILL CALL AGAIN
:unselected: IS WAITING TO SEE YOU
:unselected: RETURNED YOUR CALL
:unselected: WISHES AN APPOINTMENT
MESSAGE
56306
RECEIVED BY :left blank:
DATE 3-4
TIME 3:20

(page 5)
2/28/85
Where We Are on the Budget
· The Budget Committee is still scheduled to begin market of a budget resolution next week. Right now meetings are being held with staff from each committee to update our information as to how much spending they believe they can cut over the next three years (initial results in January indicated that we could get at least 60% of domestic cuts, with Armed Services, Banking, Labor, and Government Affairs still out).
. On advice of the Budget Committee it also seems that we have to raise our goal from $50 billion in savings in FY 1986 to $64 billion. The reasons seem to be slower growth assumptions (translating into lower revenues) than the administration and higher interest rate projections.
. That makes our job even more difficult, but it would be wrong to say we are 'off track'. We haven't even had any votes on a budget yet, or on any part of a budget. We have had some unfortunate votes on farm credit legislation, but it remains to be seen whether the President will allow us to spend that money by signing the bill into law.
. The keys to unlocking the budget puzzle are still the same. We need to move across-the-board, including real restraint on the defense budget and some action on entitlements, including social security. The danger is that everyone already seems to be scaling back their expectations. Those who want defense cut ought to keep in mind that reducing the pressure on the domestic budget inevitably will reduce the pressure on the Pentagon as well. And those who want to freeze or reform domestic programs better remember that protecting defense from any budget cuts devastates our ability to win concessions from the advocates of those domestic programs.
. The defense picture is mixed. This week the Republicans on the Armed Services Committee indicated in a letter that they are willing to consider cuts from the President's request, but not below a 4% real increase each year. That is probably not enough to convince our other committee chairman to bring their members along on the kind of cuts we need, but it is a helpful sign of movement and something we can talk about.
. We seem to have lost sight of our original goal. That is to cut spending enough to get the deficit to 2% of GNP by 1988. We have to see how much we have available to spend, then divvy it up among all the programs we want to keep. Instead we are already starting to look at problems, one by one, and throw money at them -- then we will add up the total and call it the budget, no matter what it does to the economy and the country. If that's the best we can do, we might as well do everyone a favor and go home right now.

(page 6)
THURSDAY, FEBRUARY 28, 1985 10:00 - 11:00 S- 230 MODERATE REPUBLICAN HOUSE MBRS re : BUDGET
Olympia Snowe (R., Me)
Carl Pursell (R., MI)
Tom Tauke (R., IA)
Matthew Rinaldo (R., NJ)
Tom Ridge (R., PA)
Steve Gunderson (R., WI)
Hamilton Fish (R., NY)
Nancy Johnson (R., CT)
Ed Zschau (R., CA)
Paul Henry (R., MI).
Senator Dole
Senator Chafee
Senator Simpson
Senator Domenici

(page 7)
THURSDAY, FEBRUARY 28, 1985 10:00 - 11:00 S- 230 MODERATE REPUBLICAN HOUSE MBRS re : BUDGET
Olympia Snowe (R., Me)
Carl Pursell (R., MI)
Tom Tauke (R., IA)
Matthew Rinaldo (R., NJ)
Tom Ridge (R., PA)
Steve Gunderson (R., WI)
Hamilton Fish (R., NY)
Nancy Johnson (R., CT)
Ed Zschau (R., CA)
Paul Henry (R., MI)
Senator Dole
Senator Chafee
Senator Simpson
Senator Domenici

(page 8)
BOB DOLE KANSAS
United States Senate OFFICE OF THE MAJORITY LEADER
WASHINGTON, DC 20510
January 29, 1985
MEMORANDUM
TO : SENATOR DOLE
FROM: SHEILA BURKE :signature: SB
SUBJECT : REQUEST TO MEET WITH 8-9 MODERATE REPUBLICAN HOUSE MEMBERS ON BUDGET ISSUES
We received a call today from Olympia Snowe and Carl Pursell requesting that a meeting be scheduled with you and 8-9 members of the so-called "92 Group", to re- view the Senate Republican budget initiative.
Apparently a group of about 30 have already met with Bob Michel and he encouraged them to meet with you.
Congresswoman Snowe would like to schedule a meeting this week. Those likely to be included are:
Olympia Snowe (R., ME)
Carl Pursell (R., MI)
Tom Tauke (R., IA)
Matthew Rinaldo (R., NJ)
Tom Ridge (R., PA)
Steve Gunderson (R., WI)
Hamilton Fish (R., NY)
Nancy Johnson (R., CT)
Ed Zschau (R., CA)
Paul Henry (R., MI)
Do you wish to agree to a meeting? YES :selected: NO :unselected:
Shall I try to schedule this week? YES :unselected: NO :selected:

(page 9)
February 14, 1985
MEMORANDUM
TO: SENATOR DOLE
FROM: ROD DeARMENT SHEILA BURKE :signature: SB
SUBJECT: LIST OF INVITEES TO VARIOUS MEETINGS
The following meetings have been placed on your calendar. Listed are the possible invitees for the various meetings for your approval:
Feb. 21, 1985 9:30 a.m.
Business Roundtable Task Force re: trade deficit. Three or four of their members participating.
Senator Heinz
Senator Chafee
Senator Danforth
Senator Packwood
Senator Simpson
:selected: Feb. 26, 1985/S-207 2:30-3:30 p.m.
National Governors' Association Executive Committee re: deficit reduction and frank discussion of legislative issues
Senator Simpson
Senator Armstrong
Senator Chafee
Senator Hatfield
Senator Domenici
Senator Packwood
Senator Byrd
Senator Cranston
Senator Inouye
Senator Stennis
Senator Chiles
Senator Long
[ Feb. 28, 1985/S-230 9:30 or 10:00 a.m. :circled:
8-9 Moderate Republican House Members on Budget Issues
Olympia Snowe
Carl Pursell
Tom Tauke
Matthew Rinaldo
Tom Ridge
Steve Gunderson
Hamilton Fish
Nancy Johnson
Ed Zschau
Paul Henry
Senator Simpson
Senator Domenici
Senator Armstrong
Senator Chafee
Senator Dole :handwritten:
March 5 or 7, 1985 9:00 a.m.
AARP re: issues relevant to the elderly
Senator Simpson
Senator Packwood
Senator Durenberger
Senator Heinz
Senator Chafee
Senator Hawkins
Senator Armstrong
March 6, 22 or 27 S-230
WORLD BANK Representatives re: African and Third World debt problems
Senator Hatfield
Senator Kassebaum
Senator Lugar
Senator Garn
Senator Mathias
Senator Heinz


(page 10)
Subject :
Moderate Republican House Members on Budget
Thursday,
Date: Feb. 28,1985
Time : 10:00 a. m. - 11:00
Location: S-230
REPUBLICAN LEADERSHIP
133
Senator
Position
Invited
Yes
No
ARMSTRONG
Policy-Chairman
:selected: wcb :will call back:
:unselected:
:selected:
CHAFEE
Conference-Chairman 46174
:selected: wcb :will call back:
:selected:
:unselected:
COCHRAN
Conference-Secretary
:unselected:
:unselected:
:unselected:
DOLE
Majority Leader
:selected:
:selected:
:unselected:
HEINZ
Senatorial Comm.-Chairman
:unselected:
:unselected:

SIMPSON
Asst. Majority Leader
:selected:
:selected:
:selected: :crossed out:
THURMOND
President Pro Tempore
:unselected:
:unselected:
:unselected:
Kirk X 56306 contact in Snowe's office :handwritten: 15

COMMITTEE CHAIRMEN
Senator
Committee
Invited
Yes
No
ABDNOR
Joint Economic



ANDREWS
Select - - Indian Affairs



DANFORTH
Commerce



DOMENICI :handwritten: angela
Budget :handwritten: 46621
:selected:
:selected:

DURENBERGER
Intelligence



GARN
Banking



GOLDWATER
Armed Services



HATCH
Labor



HATFIELD
Appropriations



HEINZ
Special - - Aging



HELMS
Agriculture



LUGAR
Foreign Relations



MATHIAS
Rules & Administration



McCLURE
Energy



MURKOWSKI
Veterans Affairs



PACKWOOD
Finance



ROTH
Governmental Affairs



RUDMAN
Select - - Ethics



STAFFORD
Environment



THURMOND
Judiciary



WEICKER
Small Business




BOSCHWITZ
LAXALT
BAUCUS
JOHNSTON
COHEN
MATTINGLY
BENTSEN
KENNEDY
D'AMATO
McCONNELL
BIDEN
KERRY
DENTON
NICKLES
BINGAMAN
LAUTENBERG
EAST
PRESSLER
BOREN
LEAHY
EVANS
QUAYLE
BRADLEY
LEVIN
GORTON
SPECTER
BUMPERS
LONG
GRAMM
STEVENS
BURDICK
MATSUNAGA
GRASSLEY
SYMMS
BYRD
MELCHER
HAWKINS
TRIBLE
CHILES
METZENBAUM
HECHT
WALLOP
CRANSTON
MTCHELL
HUMPHREY
WARNER
DeCONCINI
MOYNIHAN
KASSEBAUM
WILSON
DIXON
NUNN
KASTEN

DODD
PELL


EAGLETON
PROXMIRE


EXON
PRYOR


FORD
RIEGLE


GLENN
ROCKEFELLER


GORE
SARBANES


HARKIN
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Ed Zschau
Paul Henry

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Feb. 28, 1985
BOB DOLE KANSAS
United States Senate
OFFICE OF THE MAJORITY LEADER
WASHINGTON, DC 20510
February 4, 1985
MEMORANDUM
TO: SENATOR DOLE
FROM: SHEILA BURKE :signature: SB
SUBJECT: MEETING WITH HOUSE MODERATE REPUBLICANS
As you may recall, Olympia Snowe and Carl Pursell called last week to set up a meeting with you and 8-9 members of the so-called "92 Group." You indicated a willingness to meet with them at some time other than last week. Mr. Pursell called again today to schedule a time.
Shall I set up a time early this week?
1/2 to 45 min.
Schedule this week YES :unselected: NO :unselected:
Schedule after recess YES :selected: :circled: NO :unselected:
Call Kirk in Olympia Snowe's office re: scheduling
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THURSDAY, FEBRUARY 28, 1985 10:00 - 11:00 S- 230
MODERATE REPUBLICAN HOUSE MBRS
re : BUDGET
Olympia Snowe (R., Me) :circled:
Carl Pursell (R., MI)
Tom Tauke (R., IA)
Matthew Rinaldo (R., NJ)
Tom Ridge (R., PA)
Steve Gunderson (R., WI)
Hamilton Fish (R., NY)
Nancy Johnson (R., CT)
Ed Zschau (R., CA)
Paul Henry (R., MI)
Senator Dole
Senator Chafee :crossed out: at a mash up :handwritten:
Senator Simpson
Senator Domenici

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THURSDAY, FEBRUARY 28, 1985 10:00 - 11:00 S- 230 MODERATE REPUBLICAN HOUSE MBRS
re : BUDGET
Olympia Snowe (R., Me)
Carl Pursell (R., MI)
Tom Tauke (R., IA)
Matthew Rinaldo (R., NJ)
Tom Ridge (R., PA)
Steve Gunderson (R., WI)
Hamilton Fish (R., NY)
Nancy Johnson (R., CT)
Ed Zschau (R., CA)
Paul Henry (R., MI)
Senator Dole
Senator Chafee
Senator Simpson
Senator Domenici

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MEMBERS OF THE 92 GROUP
:selected: The Honorable Doug Bereuter
2446 Rayburn HOB
The Honorable Sherwood L. Boehlert
1641 Longworth HOB
:selected: The Honorable Rod Chandler
216 Cannon HOB
The Honorable William F. Clinger, Jr.
1122 Longworth HOB
The Honorable Robert W. Davis
1124 Longworth HOB
The Honorable Cooper Evans
127 Cannon HOB
:selected: The Honorable Hamilton Fish, Jr.
2227 Rayburn HOB
The Honorable Bill Frenzel
1026 Longworth HOB
The Honorable Benjamin A. Gilman
2160 Rayburn HOB
The Honorable William Goodling
2263 Rayburn HOB
The Honorable Bill Green
1110 Longworth HOB
:selected: The Honorable Steve Gunderson
227 Cannon HOB
:selected: The Honorable Paul Henry
502 Cannon HOB
The Honorable Jim Jeffords
2431 Rayburn HOB
:selected: The Honorable Nancy L. Johnson
119 Cannon HOB
The Honorable Jim Leach
1514 Longworth HOB
The Honorable Lynn Martin
1208 Longworth HOB
:selected: The Honorable John R. Mckernan, Jr.
1535 Longworth HOB
:selected: The Honorable Stewart B. Mckinney
237 Cannon HOB
The Honorable John Miller
1723 Longworth HOB
The Honorable Sid Morrison
1434 Longworth HOB
The Honorable Thomas E. Petri
1024 Longworth HOB
:selected: The Honorable Carl D. Pursell
1414 Longworth HOB
:selected: The Honorable Thomas J. Ridge
1714 Longworth HOB
:selected: The Honorable Matt Rinaldo
2338 Rayburn HOB
The Honorable Marge Roukema
303 Cannon HOB
The Honorable John Rowland
512 Cannon HOB
:selected: The Honorable Claudine Schneider
1512 Longworth HOB
:selected: The Honorable Olympia Snowe
133 Cannon HOB
:selected: The Honorable Tom Tauke
2244 Rayburn HOB
:selected: The Honorable Ed Zschau
429 Cannon HOB

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MEMORANDUM OF CALL
TO: Jean
:unselected: YOU WERE CALLED BY- :unselected: YOU WERE VISITED BY-
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Congresswoman Snow
PHONE NO. CODE/EXT. :left blank:
:unselected: PLEASE CALL
:unselected: WILL CALL AGAIN
:unselected: IS WAITING TO SEE YOU
:unselected: RETURNED YOUR CALL
:unselected: WISHES AN APPOINTMENT
MESSAGE
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DATE 3-4
TIME 3:20

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2/28/85
Where We Are on the Budget
· The Budget Committee is still scheduled to begin market of a budget resolution next week. Right now meetings are being held with staff from each committee to update our information as to how much spending they believe they can cut over the next three years (initial results in January indicated that we could get at least 60% of domestic cuts, with Armed Services, Banking, Labor, and Government Affairs still out).
. On advice of the Budget Committee it also seems that we have to raise our goal from $50 billion in savings in FY 1986 to $64 billion. The reasons seem to be slower growth assumptions (translating into lower revenues) than the administration and higher interest rate projections.
. That makes our job even more difficult, but it would be wrong to say we are 'off track'. We haven't even had any votes on a budget yet, or on any part of a budget. We have had some unfortunate votes on farm credit legislation, but it remains to be seen whether the President will allow us to spend that money by signing the bill into law.
. The keys to unlocking the budget puzzle are still the same. We need to move across-the-board, including real restraint on the defense budget and some action on entitlements, including social security. The danger is that everyone already seems to be scaling back their expectations. Those who want defense cut ought to keep in mind that reducing the pressure on the domestic budget inevitably will reduce the pressure on the Pentagon as well. And those who want to freeze or reform domestic programs better remember that protecting defense from any budget cuts devastates our ability to win concessions from the advocates of those domestic programs.
. The defense picture is mixed. This week the Republicans on the Armed Services Committee indicated in a letter that they are willing to consider cuts from the President's request, but not below a 4% real increase each year. That is probably not enough to convince our other committee chairman to bring their members along on the kind of cuts we need, but it is a helpful sign of movement and something we can talk about.
. We seem to have lost sight of our original goal. That is to cut spending enough to get the deficit to 2% of GNP by 1988. We have to see how much we have available to spend, then divvy it up among all the programs we want to keep. Instead we are already starting to look at problems, one by one, and throw money at them -- then we will add up the total and call it the budget, no matter what it does to the economy and the country. If that's the best we can do, we might as well do everyone a favor and go home right now.

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THURSDAY, FEBRUARY 28, 1985 10:00 - 11:00 S- 230 MODERATE REPUBLICAN HOUSE MBRS re : BUDGET
Olympia Snowe (R., Me)
Carl Pursell (R., MI)
Tom Tauke (R., IA)
Matthew Rinaldo (R., NJ)
Tom Ridge (R., PA)
Steve Gunderson (R., WI)
Hamilton Fish (R., NY)
Nancy Johnson (R., CT)
Ed Zschau (R., CA)
Paul Henry (R., MI).
Senator Dole
Senator Chafee
Senator Simpson
Senator Domenici

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THURSDAY, FEBRUARY 28, 1985 10:00 - 11:00 S- 230 MODERATE REPUBLICAN HOUSE MBRS re : BUDGET
Olympia Snowe (R., Me)
Carl Pursell (R., MI)
Tom Tauke (R., IA)
Matthew Rinaldo (R., NJ)
Tom Ridge (R., PA)
Steve Gunderson (R., WI)
Hamilton Fish (R., NY)
Nancy Johnson (R., CT)
Ed Zschau (R., CA)
Paul Henry (R., MI)
Senator Dole
Senator Chafee
Senator Simpson
Senator Domenici

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BOB DOLE KANSAS
United States Senate OFFICE OF THE MAJORITY LEADER
WASHINGTON, DC 20510
January 29, 1985
MEMORANDUM
TO : SENATOR DOLE
FROM: SHEILA BURKE :signature: SB
SUBJECT : REQUEST TO MEET WITH 8-9 MODERATE REPUBLICAN HOUSE MEMBERS ON BUDGET ISSUES
We received a call today from Olympia Snowe and Carl Pursell requesting that a meeting be scheduled with you and 8-9 members of the so-called "92 Group", to re- view the Senate Republican budget initiative.
Apparently a group of about 30 have already met with Bob Michel and he encouraged them to meet with you.
Congresswoman Snowe would like to schedule a meeting this week. Those likely to be included are:
Olympia Snowe (R., ME)
Carl Pursell (R., MI)
Tom Tauke (R., IA)
Matthew Rinaldo (R., NJ)
Tom Ridge (R., PA)
Steve Gunderson (R., WI)
Hamilton Fish (R., NY)
Nancy Johnson (R., CT)
Ed Zschau (R., CA)
Paul Henry (R., MI)
Do you wish to agree to a meeting? YES :selected: NO :unselected:
Shall I try to schedule this week? YES :unselected: NO :selected:

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February 14, 1985
MEMORANDUM
TO: SENATOR DOLE
FROM: ROD DeARMENT SHEILA BURKE :signature: SB
SUBJECT: LIST OF INVITEES TO VARIOUS MEETINGS
The following meetings have been placed on your calendar. Listed are the possible invitees for the various meetings for your approval:
Feb. 21, 1985 9:30 a.m.
Business Roundtable Task Force re: trade deficit. Three or four of their members participating.
Senator Heinz
Senator Chafee
Senator Danforth
Senator Packwood
Senator Simpson
:selected: Feb. 26, 1985/S-207 2:30-3:30 p.m.
National Governors' Association Executive Committee re: deficit reduction and frank discussion of legislative issues
Senator Simpson
Senator Armstrong
Senator Chafee
Senator Hatfield
Senator Domenici
Senator Packwood
Senator Byrd
Senator Cranston
Senator Inouye
Senator Stennis
Senator Chiles
Senator Long
[ Feb. 28, 1985/S-230 9:30 or 10:00 a.m. :circled:
8-9 Moderate Republican House Members on Budget Issues
Olympia Snowe
Carl Pursell
Tom Tauke
Matthew Rinaldo
Tom Ridge
Steve Gunderson
Hamilton Fish
Nancy Johnson
Ed Zschau
Paul Henry
Senator Simpson
Senator Domenici
Senator Armstrong
Senator Chafee
Senator Dole :handwritten:
March 5 or 7, 1985 9:00 a.m.
AARP re: issues relevant to the elderly
Senator Simpson
Senator Packwood
Senator Durenberger
Senator Heinz
Senator Chafee
Senator Hawkins
Senator Armstrong
March 6, 22 or 27 S-230
WORLD BANK Representatives re: African and Third World debt problems
Senator Hatfield
Senator Kassebaum
Senator Lugar
Senator Garn
Senator Mathias
Senator Heinz


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Subject :
Moderate Republican House Members on Budget
Thursday,
Date: Feb. 28,1985
Time : 10:00 a. m. - 11:00
Location: S-230
REPUBLICAN LEADERSHIP
133
Senator
Position
Invited
Yes
No
ARMSTRONG
Policy-Chairman
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:selected:
CHAFEE
Conference-Chairman 46174
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:selected:
:unselected:
COCHRAN
Conference-Secretary
:unselected:
:unselected:
:unselected:
DOLE
Majority Leader
:selected:
:selected:
:unselected:
HEINZ
Senatorial Comm.-Chairman
:unselected:
:unselected:

SIMPSON
Asst. Majority Leader
:selected:
:selected:
:selected: :crossed out:
THURMOND
President Pro Tempore
:unselected:
:unselected:
:unselected:
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COMMITTEE CHAIRMEN
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Invited
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ABDNOR
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ANDREWS
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DANFORTH
Commerce



DOMENICI :handwritten: angela
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Intelligence



GARN
Banking



GOLDWATER
Armed Services



HATCH
Labor



HATFIELD
Appropriations



HEINZ
Special - - Aging



HELMS
Agriculture



LUGAR
Foreign Relations



MATHIAS
Rules & Administration



McCLURE
Energy



MURKOWSKI
Veterans Affairs



PACKWOOD
Finance



ROTH
Governmental Affairs



RUDMAN
Select - - Ethics



STAFFORD
Environment



THURMOND
Judiciary



WEICKER
Small Business




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Carl Pursell
Tom Tauke
Matthew Ronaldo
Tom Ridge
Steve Gunderson
Hamilton Fish
Nancy Johnson
Ed Zschau
Paul Henry

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:circled: 8:30 or 9:00- 10:00 :ten o'clock is partially erased:
Feb. 28, 1985
BOB DOLE KANSAS
United States Senate
OFFICE OF THE MAJORITY LEADER
WASHINGTON, DC 20510
February 4, 1985
MEMORANDUM
TO: SENATOR DOLE
FROM: SHEILA BURKE :signature: SB
SUBJECT: MEETING WITH HOUSE MODERATE REPUBLICANS
As you may recall, Olympia Snowe and Carl Pursell called last week to set up a meeting with you and 8-9 members of the so-called "92 Group." You indicated a willingness to meet with them at some time other than last week. Mr. Pursell called again today to schedule a time.
Shall I set up a time early this week?
1/2 to 45 min.
Schedule this week YES :unselected: NO :unselected:
Schedule after recess YES :selected: :circled: NO :unselected:
Call Kirk in Olympia Snowe's office re: scheduling
56306
KIRK WALDER
:shorthand:
[not 10 t noon ] ? weds no 5:00

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