Budget Meeting, February 28, 1985

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Budget Meeting, February 28, 1985
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1985-02-28
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1985-02-28
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99th (1985-1987)
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Congress
Economics and Public Finance
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Dole, Robert J., 1923-2021
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Robert J. Dole Institute of Politics, University of Kansas, Lawrence, KS
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(page 1)
luncheon class of 86
Subject : senate rules; senate proc.; changes; roll call
Date: Thurs. Feb. 28, 1985
Time : 12:00 - 1:00
Location: S - 230
Senator
Position
Invited
Yes
No
ARMSTRONG ANTOINETTE
Policy-Chairman 5941
:selected: wcb


CHAFEE HOLLY
Conference-Chairman 46174
:selected: donna :selected:
:selected:

COCHRAN
Conference-Secretary



DOLE BETTY
Majority Leader
:selected:
:selected:

HEINZ
Senatorial Comm.-Chairman



SIMPSON LAURIE
Asst. Majority Leader 42792
:selected: wcb
:selected:

THURMOND
President Pro Tempore



LAXALT

:selected:
:selected:

MATTINGLY - margarette

:selected:
:selected:

REPUBLICAN LEADERSHIP

COMMITTEE CHAIRMEN
Senator
Committee
Invited
Yes
No
ABDNOR
Joint Economic



ANDREWS
Select - - Indian Affairs



DANFORTH
Commerce



DOMENICI
Budget



DURENBERGER
Intelligence



GARN
Banking



GOLDWATER
Armed Services



HATCH
Labor



HATFIELD
Appropriations



HEINZ
Special - - Aging



HELMS SAMMY
Agriculture 6342
:selected: wcb
:selected:

LUGAR
Foreign Relations



MATHIAS 4654
Rules & Administration MRS. GRAVES
:selected:

:selected:
McCLURE
Energy JANE ROTH 42752
:selected:
:selected:

MURKOWSKI
Veterans Affairs



PACKWOOD
Finance



ROTH
Governmental Affairs



RUDMAN
Select - - Ethics



STAFFORD
Environment



THURMOND
Judiciary



WEICKER
Small Business



President, class of 1986 ~ manic, (shorthand) elect anyone mr official president

Republicans Democrats
BOSCHWITZ
LAXALT
BAUCUS
JOHNSTON
COHEN
MATTINGLY
BENTSEN
KENNEDY
D'AMATO
McCONNELL
BIDEN
KERRY
DENTON
NICKLES
BINGAMAN
LAUTENBERG
EAST
PRESSLER
BOREN
LEAHY
EVANS
QUAYLE
BRADLEY
LEVIN
GORTON
SPECTER
BUMPERS
LONG
GRAMM
STEVENS
BURDICK
MATSUNAGA
GRASSLEY
SYMMS
BYRD
MELCHER
HAWKINS
TRIBLE
CHILES
METZENBAUM
HECHT
WALLOP
CRANSTON
MTCHELL
HUMPHREY
WARNER
DeCONCINI
MOYNIHAN
KASSEBAUM
WILSON
DIXON
NUNN
KASTEN

DODD
PELL


EAGLETON
PROXMIRE


EXON
PRYOR


FORD
RIEGLE


GLENN
ROCKEFELLER


GORE
SARBANES


HARKIN
SASSER


HART
SIMON


HEFLIN
STENNIS


HOLLINGS
ZORINSKY


INOUYE

Administration: Rod :selected: Howard :selected: Coe ~ cottage cheese fruit plate



(page 2)
Arlen most - jr.
traditional remarks
Schultz (shorthand) MX
(shorthand)
on Dole & then Specter any comments
1 minute general Comment


(page 3)
THURSDAY, February 28, 1985 S-230
11:30 - 12:00 noon
REPUBLICAN LEADERSHIP AND REPUBLICAN MEMBERS OF THE BUDGET COMMITTEE RE: budget
Senator Dole :selected:
Senator Armstrong :selected: :circled:
Senator Chafee :selected:
Senator Heinz :selected: :selected:
Senator Simpson :selected:
Senator Thurmond :selected:
Senator Laxalt :selected:
Senator Mattingly :selected: :circled:
Senator Andrews :selected: :circled:
Senator Domenici :selected: :circled:
Senator Boschwitz :selected: :circled:
Senator Gorton :selected: :circled:
Senator Quayle :selected: :circled:
Senator Symms :selected: :circled:
Senator Cochran :selected:
Senator Grassley :selected: :circled:
Senator Danforth :selected: :circled:
Have not heard from:
Senator Kassebaum :selected:
Senator Kasten :selected:
Senator Hatch :selected:

(page 4)
THURSDAY, February 28, 1985 S-230
11:30 - 12:00 noon
REPUBLICAN LEADERSHIP AND REPUBLICAN MEMBERS OF THE BUDGET COMMITTEE
RE: budget
:selected: Senator Dole
:selected: Senator Armstrong
:selected: Senator Chafee
:selected: Senator Heinz
:selected: Senator Simpson
:selected: Senator Thurmond
:selected: Senator Laxalt
:selected: Senator Mattingly
:selected: Senator Andrews
:selected: Senator Domenici
:selected: Senator Boschwitz
:selected: Senator Gorton
:selected: Senator Quayle
:selected: Senator Symms
:selected: Senator Cochran
:selected: Senator Grassley
:selected: Senator Danforth
Have not heard from: no answer as of 11:15 a. m.
:selected: Senator Kassebaum
:selected: Senator Kasten
:selected: Senator Hatch

(page 5)
2/28/85
Where We Are on the Budget
· The Budget Committee is still scheduled to begin market of a budget resolution next week. Right now meetings are being held with staff from each committee to update our information as to how much spending they believe they can cut over the next three years (initial results in January indicated that we could get at least 60% of domestic cuts, with Armed Services, Banking, Labor, and Government Affairs still out).
. On advice of the Budget Committee it also seems that we have to raise our goal from $50 billion in savings in FY 1986 to $64 billion. The reasons seem to be slower growth assumptions (translating into lower revenues) than the administration and higher interest rate projections.
. That makes our job even more difficult, but it would be wrong to say we are 'off track'. We haven't even had any votes on a budget yet, or on any part of a budget. We have had some unfortunate votes on farm credit legislation, but it remains to be seen whether the President will allow us to spend that money by signing the bill into law.
. The keys to unlocking the budget puzzle are still the same. We need to move across-the-board, including real restraint on the defense budget and some action on entitlements, including social security. The danger is that everyone already seems to be scaling back their expectations. Those who want defense cut ought to keep in mind that reducing the pressure on the domestic budget inevitably will reduce the pressure on the Pentagon as well. And those who want to freeze or reform domestic programs better remember that protecting defense from any budget cuts devastates our ability to win concessions from the advocates of those domestic programs.
. The defense picture is mixed. This week the Republicans on the Armed Services Committee indicated in a letter that they are willing to consider cuts from the President's request, but not below a 4% real increase each year. That is probably not enough to convince our other committee chairman to bring their members along on the kind of cuts we need, but it is a helpful sign of movement and something we can talk about.
. We seem to have lost sight of our original goal. That is to cut spending enough to get the deficit to 2% of GNP by 1988. We have to see how much we have available to spend, then divvy it up among all the programs we want to keep. Instead we are already starting to look at problems, one by one, and throw money at them -- then we will add up the total and call it the budget, no matter what it does to the economy and the country. If that's the best we can do, we might as well do everyone a favor and go home right now.
(page 6)
4 0846
Subject : budget
Date: 2/28/
Time : 11:30 - 12:00
Location: S. 230
Senator
Position
Invited
Yes
No
ARMSTRONG
Policy-Chairman
:selected:
:selected:

CHAFEE
Conference-Chairman 46174
:selected:
:selected:

COCHRAN
Conference-Secretary
:selected:
:selected:

DOLE
Majority Leader
:selected:
:selected:

HEINZ
Senatorial Comm.-Chairman
:selected:
:selected:

SIMPSON
Asst. Majority Leader
:selected:
:selected:

THURMOND HOLLY
President Pro Tempore 47722
:selected:
:selected:

LAXALT EILEEN
41054
:selected:
:selected:

MATTINGLY ~

:selected:
:selected:

REPUBLICAN LEADERSHIP

COMMITTEE CHAIRMEN
Senator
Committee
Invited
Yes
No
ABDNOR
Joint Economic



ANDREWS GRACE
Select - - Indian Affairs
:selected:
:selected:

DANFORTH JUDY
Commerce 41402 6. hearing
:selected: ?


DOMENICI
Budget
:selected:
:selected:

DURENBERGER
Intelligence



GARN
Banking



GOLDWATER
Armed Services



HATCH ~ CINDY
Labor 49852 - wcb
:selected:
press interview

HATFIELD
Appropriations



HEINZ
Special - - Aging



HELMS
Agriculture



LUGAR
Foreign Relations



MATHIAS
Rules & Administration



McCLURE
Energy



MURKOWSKI
Veterans Affairs



PACKWOOD
Finance



ROTH
Governmental Affairs



RUDMAN
Select - - Ethics



STAFFORD
Environment



THURMOND
Judiciary



WEICKER
Small Business




Republicans Democrats
BOSCHWITZ :circled: :selected: ~ JANET KELLY
LAXALT
BAUCUS
JOHNSTON
COHEN
MATTINGLY
BENTSEN
KENNEDY
D'AMATO
McCONNELL
BIDEN
KERRY
DENTON
NICKLES
BINGAMAN
LAUTENBERG
EAST
PRESSLER
BOREN
LEAHY
EVANS
QUAYLE :circled: :selected:
BRADLEY
LEVIN
GORTON
SPECTER
BUMPERS
LONG
GRAMM
STEVENS
BURDICK
MATSUNAGA
GRASSLEY :circled: wcb
SYMMS :circled: :selected:
BYRD
MELCHER
HAWKINS
TRIBLE
CHILES
METZENBAUM
HECHT
WALLOP
CRANSTON
MTCHELL
HUMPHREY
WARNER
DeCONCINI
MOYNIHAN
KASSEBAUM :selected: maybe
WILSON
DIXON
NUNN
KASTEN :selected: wcb

DODD
PELL


EAGLETON
PROXMIRE


EXON
PRYOR


FORD
RIEGLE


GLENN
ROCKEFELLER


GORE
SARBANES


HARKIN
SASSER


HART
SIMON


HEFLIN
STENNIS


HOLLINGS
ZORINSKY


INOUYE

Administration: :left blank:
(page 1)
luncheon class of 86
Subject : senate rules; senate proc.; changes; roll call
Date: Thurs. Feb. 28, 1985
Time : 12:00 - 1:00
Location: S - 230
Senator
Position
Invited
Yes
No
ARMSTRONG ANTOINETTE
Policy-Chairman 5941
:selected: wcb


CHAFEE HOLLY
Conference-Chairman 46174
:selected: donna :selected:
:selected:

COCHRAN
Conference-Secretary



DOLE BETTY
Majority Leader
:selected:
:selected:

HEINZ
Senatorial Comm.-Chairman



SIMPSON LAURIE
Asst. Majority Leader 42792
:selected: wcb
:selected:

THURMOND
President Pro Tempore



LAXALT

:selected:
:selected:

MATTINGLY - margarette

:selected:
:selected:

REPUBLICAN LEADERSHIP

COMMITTEE CHAIRMEN
Senator
Committee
Invited
Yes
No
ABDNOR
Joint Economic



ANDREWS
Select - - Indian Affairs



DANFORTH
Commerce



DOMENICI
Budget



DURENBERGER
Intelligence



GARN
Banking



GOLDWATER
Armed Services



HATCH
Labor



HATFIELD
Appropriations



HEINZ
Special - - Aging



HELMS SAMMY
Agriculture 6342
:selected: wcb
:selected:

LUGAR
Foreign Relations



MATHIAS 4654
Rules & Administration MRS. GRAVES
:selected:

:selected:
McCLURE
Energy JANE ROTH 42752
:selected:
:selected:

MURKOWSKI
Veterans Affairs



PACKWOOD
Finance



ROTH
Governmental Affairs



RUDMAN
Select - - Ethics



STAFFORD
Environment



THURMOND
Judiciary



WEICKER
Small Business



President, class of 1986 ~ manic, (shorthand) elect anyone mr official president

Republicans Democrats
BOSCHWITZ
LAXALT
BAUCUS
JOHNSTON
COHEN
MATTINGLY
BENTSEN
KENNEDY
D'AMATO
McCONNELL
BIDEN
KERRY
DENTON
NICKLES
BINGAMAN
LAUTENBERG
EAST
PRESSLER
BOREN
LEAHY
EVANS
QUAYLE
BRADLEY
LEVIN
GORTON
SPECTER
BUMPERS
LONG
GRAMM
STEVENS
BURDICK
MATSUNAGA
GRASSLEY
SYMMS
BYRD
MELCHER
HAWKINS
TRIBLE
CHILES
METZENBAUM
HECHT
WALLOP
CRANSTON
MTCHELL
HUMPHREY
WARNER
DeCONCINI
MOYNIHAN
KASSEBAUM
WILSON
DIXON
NUNN
KASTEN

DODD
PELL


EAGLETON
PROXMIRE


EXON
PRYOR


FORD
RIEGLE


GLENN
ROCKEFELLER


GORE
SARBANES


HARKIN
SASSER


HART
SIMON


HEFLIN
STENNIS


HOLLINGS
ZORINSKY


INOUYE

Administration: Rod :selected: Howard :selected: Coe ~ cottage cheese fruit plate



(page 2)
Arlen most - jr.
traditional remarks
Schultz (shorthand) MX
(shorthand)
on Dole & then Specter any comments
1 minute general Comment


(page 3)
THURSDAY, February 28, 1985 S-230
11:30 - 12:00 noon
REPUBLICAN LEADERSHIP AND REPUBLICAN MEMBERS OF THE BUDGET COMMITTEE RE: budget
Senator Dole :selected:
Senator Armstrong :selected: :circled:
Senator Chafee :selected:
Senator Heinz :selected: :selected:
Senator Simpson :selected:
Senator Thurmond :selected:
Senator Laxalt :selected:
Senator Mattingly :selected: :circled:
Senator Andrews :selected: :circled:
Senator Domenici :selected: :circled:
Senator Boschwitz :selected: :circled:
Senator Gorton :selected: :circled:
Senator Quayle :selected: :circled:
Senator Symms :selected: :circled:
Senator Cochran :selected:
Senator Grassley :selected: :circled:
Senator Danforth :selected: :circled:
Have not heard from:
Senator Kassebaum :selected:
Senator Kasten :selected:
Senator Hatch :selected:

(page 4)
THURSDAY, February 28, 1985 S-230
11:30 - 12:00 noon
REPUBLICAN LEADERSHIP AND REPUBLICAN MEMBERS OF THE BUDGET COMMITTEE
RE: budget
:selected: Senator Dole
:selected: Senator Armstrong
:selected: Senator Chafee
:selected: Senator Heinz
:selected: Senator Simpson
:selected: Senator Thurmond
:selected: Senator Laxalt
:selected: Senator Mattingly
:selected: Senator Andrews
:selected: Senator Domenici
:selected: Senator Boschwitz
:selected: Senator Gorton
:selected: Senator Quayle
:selected: Senator Symms
:selected: Senator Cochran
:selected: Senator Grassley
:selected: Senator Danforth
Have not heard from: no answer as of 11:15 a. m.
:selected: Senator Kassebaum
:selected: Senator Kasten
:selected: Senator Hatch

(page 5)
2/28/85
Where We Are on the Budget
· The Budget Committee is still scheduled to begin market of a budget resolution next week. Right now meetings are being held with staff from each committee to update our information as to how much spending they believe they can cut over the next three years (initial results in January indicated that we could get at least 60% of domestic cuts, with Armed Services, Banking, Labor, and Government Affairs still out).
. On advice of the Budget Committee it also seems that we have to raise our goal from $50 billion in savings in FY 1986 to $64 billion. The reasons seem to be slower growth assumptions (translating into lower revenues) than the administration and higher interest rate projections.
. That makes our job even more difficult, but it would be wrong to say we are 'off track'. We haven't even had any votes on a budget yet, or on any part of a budget. We have had some unfortunate votes on farm credit legislation, but it remains to be seen whether the President will allow us to spend that money by signing the bill into law.
. The keys to unlocking the budget puzzle are still the same. We need to move across-the-board, including real restraint on the defense budget and some action on entitlements, including social security. The danger is that everyone already seems to be scaling back their expectations. Those who want defense cut ought to keep in mind that reducing the pressure on the domestic budget inevitably will reduce the pressure on the Pentagon as well. And those who want to freeze or reform domestic programs better remember that protecting defense from any budget cuts devastates our ability to win concessions from the advocates of those domestic programs.
. The defense picture is mixed. This week the Republicans on the Armed Services Committee indicated in a letter that they are willing to consider cuts from the President's request, but not below a 4% real increase each year. That is probably not enough to convince our other committee chairman to bring their members along on the kind of cuts we need, but it is a helpful sign of movement and something we can talk about.
. We seem to have lost sight of our original goal. That is to cut spending enough to get the deficit to 2% of GNP by 1988. We have to see how much we have available to spend, then divvy it up among all the programs we want to keep. Instead we are already starting to look at problems, one by one, and throw money at them -- then we will add up the total and call it the budget, no matter what it does to the economy and the country. If that's the best we can do, we might as well do everyone a favor and go home right now.
(page 6)
4 0846
Subject : budget
Date: 2/28/
Time : 11:30 - 12:00
Location: S. 230
Senator
Position
Invited
Yes
No
ARMSTRONG
Policy-Chairman
:selected:
:selected:

CHAFEE
Conference-Chairman 46174
:selected:
:selected:

COCHRAN
Conference-Secretary
:selected:
:selected:

DOLE
Majority Leader
:selected:
:selected:

HEINZ
Senatorial Comm.-Chairman
:selected:
:selected:

SIMPSON
Asst. Majority Leader
:selected:
:selected:

THURMOND HOLLY
President Pro Tempore 47722
:selected:
:selected:

LAXALT EILEEN
41054
:selected:
:selected:

MATTINGLY ~

:selected:
:selected:

REPUBLICAN LEADERSHIP

COMMITTEE CHAIRMEN
Senator
Committee
Invited
Yes
No
ABDNOR
Joint Economic



ANDREWS GRACE
Select - - Indian Affairs
:selected:
:selected:

DANFORTH JUDY
Commerce 41402 6. hearing
:selected: ?


DOMENICI
Budget
:selected:
:selected:

DURENBERGER
Intelligence



GARN
Banking



GOLDWATER
Armed Services



HATCH ~ CINDY
Labor 49852 - wcb
:selected:
press interview

HATFIELD
Appropriations



HEINZ
Special - - Aging



HELMS
Agriculture



LUGAR
Foreign Relations



MATHIAS
Rules & Administration



McCLURE
Energy



MURKOWSKI
Veterans Affairs



PACKWOOD
Finance



ROTH
Governmental Affairs



RUDMAN
Select - - Ethics



STAFFORD
Environment



THURMOND
Judiciary



WEICKER
Small Business




Republicans Democrats
BOSCHWITZ :circled: :selected: ~ JANET KELLY
LAXALT
BAUCUS
JOHNSTON
COHEN
MATTINGLY
BENTSEN
KENNEDY
D'AMATO
McCONNELL
BIDEN
KERRY
DENTON
NICKLES
BINGAMAN
LAUTENBERG
EAST
PRESSLER
BOREN
LEAHY
EVANS
QUAYLE :circled: :selected:
BRADLEY
LEVIN
GORTON
SPECTER
BUMPERS
LONG
GRAMM
STEVENS
BURDICK
MATSUNAGA
GRASSLEY :circled: wcb
SYMMS :circled: :selected:
BYRD
MELCHER
HAWKINS
TRIBLE
CHILES
METZENBAUM
HECHT
WALLOP
CRANSTON
MTCHELL
HUMPHREY
WARNER
DeCONCINI
MOYNIHAN
KASSEBAUM :selected: maybe
WILSON
DIXON
NUNN
KASTEN :selected: wcb

DODD
PELL


EAGLETON
PROXMIRE


EXON
PRYOR


FORD
RIEGLE


GLENN
ROCKEFELLER


GORE
SARBANES


HARKIN
SASSER


HART
SIMON


HEFLIN
STENNIS


HOLLINGS
ZORINSKY


INOUYE

Administration: :left blank:
(page 1)
luncheon class of 86
Subject : senate rules; senate proc.; changes; roll call
Date: Thurs. Feb. 28, 1985
Time : 12:00 - 1:00
Location: S - 230
Senator
Position
Invited
Yes
No
ARMSTRONG ANTOINETTE
Policy-Chairman 5941
:selected: wcb


CHAFEE HOLLY
Conference-Chairman 46174
:selected: donna :selected:
:selected:

COCHRAN
Conference-Secretary



DOLE BETTY
Majority Leader
:selected:
:selected:

HEINZ
Senatorial Comm.-Chairman



SIMPSON LAURIE
Asst. Majority Leader 42792
:selected: wcb
:selected:

THURMOND
President Pro Tempore



LAXALT

:selected:
:selected:

MATTINGLY - margarette

:selected:
:selected:

REPUBLICAN LEADERSHIP

COMMITTEE CHAIRMEN
Senator
Committee
Invited
Yes
No
ABDNOR
Joint Economic



ANDREWS
Select - - Indian Affairs



DANFORTH
Commerce



DOMENICI
Budget



DURENBERGER
Intelligence



GARN
Banking



GOLDWATER
Armed Services



HATCH
Labor



HATFIELD
Appropriations



HEINZ
Special - - Aging



HELMS SAMMY
Agriculture 6342
:selected: wcb
:selected:

LUGAR
Foreign Relations



MATHIAS 4654
Rules & Administration MRS. GRAVES
:selected:

:selected:
McCLURE
Energy JANE ROTH 42752
:selected:
:selected:

MURKOWSKI
Veterans Affairs



PACKWOOD
Finance



ROTH
Governmental Affairs



RUDMAN
Select - - Ethics



STAFFORD
Environment



THURMOND
Judiciary



WEICKER
Small Business



President, class of 1986 ~ manic, (shorthand) elect anyone mr official president

Republicans Democrats
BOSCHWITZ
LAXALT
BAUCUS
JOHNSTON
COHEN
MATTINGLY
BENTSEN
KENNEDY
D'AMATO
McCONNELL
BIDEN
KERRY
DENTON
NICKLES
BINGAMAN
LAUTENBERG
EAST
PRESSLER
BOREN
LEAHY
EVANS
QUAYLE
BRADLEY
LEVIN
GORTON
SPECTER
BUMPERS
LONG
GRAMM
STEVENS
BURDICK
MATSUNAGA
GRASSLEY
SYMMS
BYRD
MELCHER
HAWKINS
TRIBLE
CHILES
METZENBAUM
HECHT
WALLOP
CRANSTON
MTCHELL
HUMPHREY
WARNER
DeCONCINI
MOYNIHAN
KASSEBAUM
WILSON
DIXON
NUNN
KASTEN

DODD
PELL


EAGLETON
PROXMIRE


EXON
PRYOR


FORD
RIEGLE


GLENN
ROCKEFELLER


GORE
SARBANES


HARKIN
SASSER


HART
SIMON


HEFLIN
STENNIS


HOLLINGS
ZORINSKY


INOUYE

Administration: Rod :selected: Howard :selected: Coe ~ cottage cheese fruit plate



(page 2)
Arlen most - jr.
traditional remarks
Schultz (shorthand) MX
(shorthand)
on Dole & then Specter any comments
1 minute general Comment


(page 3)
THURSDAY, February 28, 1985 S-230
11:30 - 12:00 noon
REPUBLICAN LEADERSHIP AND REPUBLICAN MEMBERS OF THE BUDGET COMMITTEE RE: budget
Senator Dole :selected:
Senator Armstrong :selected: :circled:
Senator Chafee :selected:
Senator Heinz :selected: :selected:
Senator Simpson :selected:
Senator Thurmond :selected:
Senator Laxalt :selected:
Senator Mattingly :selected: :circled:
Senator Andrews :selected: :circled:
Senator Domenici :selected: :circled:
Senator Boschwitz :selected: :circled:
Senator Gorton :selected: :circled:
Senator Quayle :selected: :circled:
Senator Symms :selected: :circled:
Senator Cochran :selected:
Senator Grassley :selected: :circled:
Senator Danforth :selected: :circled:
Have not heard from:
Senator Kassebaum :selected:
Senator Kasten :selected:
Senator Hatch :selected:

(page 4)
THURSDAY, February 28, 1985 S-230
11:30 - 12:00 noon
REPUBLICAN LEADERSHIP AND REPUBLICAN MEMBERS OF THE BUDGET COMMITTEE
RE: budget
:selected: Senator Dole
:selected: Senator Armstrong
:selected: Senator Chafee
:selected: Senator Heinz
:selected: Senator Simpson
:selected: Senator Thurmond
:selected: Senator Laxalt
:selected: Senator Mattingly
:selected: Senator Andrews
:selected: Senator Domenici
:selected: Senator Boschwitz
:selected: Senator Gorton
:selected: Senator Quayle
:selected: Senator Symms
:selected: Senator Cochran
:selected: Senator Grassley
:selected: Senator Danforth
Have not heard from: no answer as of 11:15 a. m.
:selected: Senator Kassebaum
:selected: Senator Kasten
:selected: Senator Hatch

(page 5)
2/28/85
Where We Are on the Budget
· The Budget Committee is still scheduled to begin market of a budget resolution next week. Right now meetings are being held with staff from each committee to update our information as to how much spending they believe they can cut over the next three years (initial results in January indicated that we could get at least 60% of domestic cuts, with Armed Services, Banking, Labor, and Government Affairs still out).
. On advice of the Budget Committee it also seems that we have to raise our goal from $50 billion in savings in FY 1986 to $64 billion. The reasons seem to be slower growth assumptions (translating into lower revenues) than the administration and higher interest rate projections.
. That makes our job even more difficult, but it would be wrong to say we are 'off track'. We haven't even had any votes on a budget yet, or on any part of a budget. We have had some unfortunate votes on farm credit legislation, but it remains to be seen whether the President will allow us to spend that money by signing the bill into law.
. The keys to unlocking the budget puzzle are still the same. We need to move across-the-board, including real restraint on the defense budget and some action on entitlements, including social security. The danger is that everyone already seems to be scaling back their expectations. Those who want defense cut ought to keep in mind that reducing the pressure on the domestic budget inevitably will reduce the pressure on the Pentagon as well. And those who want to freeze or reform domestic programs better remember that protecting defense from any budget cuts devastates our ability to win concessions from the advocates of those domestic programs.
. The defense picture is mixed. This week the Republicans on the Armed Services Committee indicated in a letter that they are willing to consider cuts from the President's request, but not below a 4% real increase each year. That is probably not enough to convince our other committee chairman to bring their members along on the kind of cuts we need, but it is a helpful sign of movement and something we can talk about.
. We seem to have lost sight of our original goal. That is to cut spending enough to get the deficit to 2% of GNP by 1988. We have to see how much we have available to spend, then divvy it up among all the programs we want to keep. Instead we are already starting to look at problems, one by one, and throw money at them -- then we will add up the total and call it the budget, no matter what it does to the economy and the country. If that's the best we can do, we might as well do everyone a favor and go home right now.
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Subject : budget
Date: 2/28/
Time : 11:30 - 12:00
Location: S. 230
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Conference-Secretary
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Commerce 41402 6. hearing
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GARN
Banking



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Armed Services



HATCH ~ CINDY
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Appropriations



HEINZ
Special - - Aging



HELMS
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LUGAR
Foreign Relations



MATHIAS
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McCLURE
Energy



MURKOWSKI
Veterans Affairs



PACKWOOD
Finance



ROTH
Governmental Affairs



RUDMAN
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STAFFORD
Environment



THURMOND
Judiciary



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